Mixin’ It Up With Juno and Venus

Don't get ahead of yourself--just because Venus and Juno are touching cross-chart doesn't mean wedding bells. 'Wedding March' 1919 Edmund Blair Leighton {{PD}}
Don’t get ahead of yourself–just because Venus and Juno are touching cross-chart doesn’t mean wedding bells. ‘Wedding March’ 1919 Edmund Blair Leighton {{PD}}

Hello jd!

I read your Juno article and found it to be very telling with a current prospect. The interesting thing is that both of our Venuses are conjuncting each others Junos. I was delighted in the interpretation for the man’s point of view, however, I was wondering what kind of perspective you might have on this interesting dynamic? A basic overview would be fabulous. I don’t have her specific birth time, but I know from what contacts her planets make with mine are favourable. I haven’t gotten as far as to ask her what time she was born, but I was hoping you could shed some light on this situation for me (maybe before I ask?).

Best regards,
Steve

Hello Steve!

I’ve got to say, I really enjoyed receiving such a cheerful note–it seems you have a great attitude–what girl wouldn’t like that? (Not sure what Juno article he’s referring to, but it could be the series here). But, you’ve not given me any birth data, and the problem with that concerning Juno is that, if the two of you are close in age, the contact to Venus in each chart might not mean much at all. That is, people nearly the same age will often share a lot of contacts–but those contacts tell us very little about the interaction, because they’re so alike to begin with; it’s in the natal contrasts and true harmonies (that is, contacts not that are unique cross-chart) that we find the relationship itself. So, with no birth data there’s not much specific to your situation that I can safely say (and I have only your word for it that all the other contacts are favorable–no offense, but that doesn’t tell me anything either, simply because soft aspects like trines and sextiles can be detrimental under some conditions, just as hard ones can be very positive).

Sign for a Budapest perfume shop featuring Juno. Image by Jakob Warschag {{PD}}
Sign for a Budapest perfume shop featuring Juno. Image by Jakob Warschag {{PD}}

Though some people like to label Juno ‘The Marriage Asteroid’, it rarely indicates that kind of union at all; it’s more often an indicator of, cross-chart, a sense of partnership. We tend to expect cooperation from the other person when something important in their chart touches our Juno. We may assume a sort of yoked-togetherness that the other person may or may not also feel (depending on what’s contacted). We can also feel like a victim of this person, should he or she not respect us and our position; this reflects the goddess Juno’s decision to remain united with the philandering Zeus in order to retain her position on Olympus and her status as Queen of the Gods. And yes, all those things can be part of a sense of one’s marriage–though they’re certainly not the only things.

What I can say is that cross-chart aspects between Juno and Venus can be quite nice. In soft or direct (conjoined) contact, if Juno belongs to the man, then he likely regards the female’s ideal of herself as excellent mate material–I say ‘likely’ as a single aspect alone rarely gives us the whole story–and if the Juno is hers and the Venus his, she may feel very strong and capable in his company, ‘approved of’, in a sense, because she fits his ideal of what a female should be, at least in terms of how she chooses her empowerment and the status she aims for. More than that I can’t really venture. Readers, let this be a reminder: when you submit a question, please read and follow the instructions–we’re all guaranteed to get a lot more out of it that way.

Thank you, Steve, and much good luck with your lady!

jd

Eros on the Midheaven: What Do They See?

Eros evolved over time into a rather harmless child with a bow and arrow. William-Adolphe Bouguereau (1825-1905) - A Young Girl Defending Herself Against Eros (1880) {{PD}}
Eros evolved over time into a rather harmless child with a bow and arrow. William-Adolphe Bouguereau (1825-1905) – A Young Girl Defending Herself Against Eros (1880) {{PD}}

I love to answer questions from my readers, but it’s interesting that all the questions I’ve gotten lately have generally failed to give me what I need to give a well-grounded reply to the query. There seems to have been a headlong hurry to ask a question without considering that I ask for complete birth data (with month spelled out) not for my health but so I can do my job! That said, I’m going to wade in here and hand out a few crumbs of advice and astrological opinion; this is the first of several to come over the next week or so:

hi, i have 3 questions.
i wish you could tell me what those mean:

i have my eros conjunct my MC in pisces.
i have my north node conjunct vertex same degree in scorpio (5th house)
i have sun in taurus in 12th house and mercury in gemini 12th house ( what are my hidden talent)?

Hi Chris (I cheated and looked at the name on your comment, since you dashed in and out so quickly you didn’t sign your letter!),

First, I tell people over and over that I’m not crazy about removing a single aspect from its environment in the chart and commenting, simply because we need a total context in order to truly understand anything–and I’m even more reluctant when someone gives me a list of aspects with no birth data, as that means I can’t even determine for myself whether I think they are indeed conjunct, opposed, and so on. You also do not state which House method you use; I use Whole Sign but am practiced in Placidus as well–and anyone who knows much about Houses will tell you that placements can differ between these two, so that what you see as, say, the 5th House I may read in a Whole Sign chart as the 6th. So, you give me virtually nothing to work with that will guarantee my remarks will actually apply to the placements in your chart–so please, don’t take them that way, as they’re only the most general of statements.

A conjunction of Eros and the Midheaven in any sign suggests that the public image, reputation, or career accomplishments may be ripe for projection by others; that is, they may ‘know’ you (possibly only at a distance) and impose their own ideas of eroticism, desirability, or ‘right conduct’ on you (this latter as a judgment, if they disapprove of sexual energy shown openly)–and this is unrelated to your actual demeanor or activity. It’s more a kind of animal magnetism perceived by others who know you through the career or public reputation, a ‘receiving’ of the erotic energy of others, as in, you do something in the career or public venue (or even just exist!) in a way that encourages others to see you in an erotic light. It could even be a statement of an intense and satisfying passion you have for your career, of being driven in the profession. Now, a few words about Eros energy: it doesn’t come from outside of us, emitted by another person (or even an object) despite the fact that it feels that way to the person having the erotic feeling. It’s instead a projection of erotic feeling on another; it’s a kind of choice to see that person or thing as having a sexually attractive quality. When we carry this energy on the Midheaven, our erotic nature (those things we find attractive and stimulating) may be visible to all–and is very likely to permeate your public role, even if the role is not an overtly sexual one. In Pisces you may have the ability to convey an image, especially professionally, that may have little to do with your core identity.

I won’t even touch the second question, because the Vertex is determined by accurate birth data, and I don’t know if you have that, and can’t inspect it for myself. A North Node conjunct a Vertex makes a statement along the lines of, ‘A Fated Future’–but honestly, either everyone has a fated future or no one does. Who’s to say how much is predetermined? Certainly, we exercise our Free Will all the time.

This last question suggests you’ve used a House system similar to Placidus, as it allows for more than one sign in a House. Again, though, I would read these as being in two different Houses, so really can’t comment on it, other than to say that bodies posited in the 12th should not necessarily be read as ‘hidden talents’, though they might be under the right chart circumstances. They are more likely to be energies we aren’t directly conscious of–and that means they may come out, especially through the matters of the House(s) they rule, in some uncontrolled and poorly realized forms, until they become consciously channeled, claimed as your own, and used in positive forms.

Chris, thanks for writing, and good luck with your astrology studies–

jd

The Karma Fairy

The Karma Fairy visits us all--or do we make our own Karma? From MY BOOK OF FAVOURITE FAIRY TALES ILLUSTRATED BY JENNIE HARBOUR {{PD}}
The Karma Fairy visits us all–or do we make our own Karma? From MY BOOK OF FAVOURITE FAIRY TALES ILLUSTRATED BY JENNIE HARBOUR {{PD}}

A re-print from years ago, but the situation is timeless.

Julie,

What is going on: Bad Karma, something in the stars, or just plain bad luck???

I have been divorced for a little over eight years, but it has only been in the last two years that I have had the urge to get back into a relationship. Between being extremely hurt by the betrayal that led to the divorce, going back to school, getting into a second career and raising my son, I felt that I was stretched a little thin to have time to devote to a significant other. I also did not trust myself – afraid I would attract someone like my ex.

It was at my new job that I meet Mr.L, who knocked my socks off. He approached me first, and initiated conversations, and was quite complimentary. I was flattered by the attention. For the first time in years, I felt like actually going out with a man. I was physically attracted to him and we had some fun times bantering back and forth. Co-workers even commented to me on the apparent chemistry. Mr. L asked me out a total of three times (he initiated it each time) and he bailed each time – sick, sick and had to work late due to an emergency. There would be long stretches in between in which we would not see each other due to extensive travel for the job. In the end, I just figured he was not that into me and stopped any kind of flirtation. Shortly afterward he was transferred to another work location. Several months later he emailed me and told me about his new Harley and asked if I would be interested in a ride some weekend. I was casual and said sure, just call when free. Like the past situations, there was never any follow through. What makes a guy does that? I wonder if it is his Venus in Leo?

My next foray into the dating world was on a popular on line dating site. I initiated contact with Mr. B and through a series of emails, we had some interesting and fun conversations- he really made me laugh. We agreed to meet for lunch on a workday, he did not show up, and said that he had his days mixed up. (He appeared to be a absent minded professor – literally – PhD in engineering). Apologized profusely, wanted to make it up and then nothing, no further communication. Three months later, he initiates contact with me again – asks to be forgiven, was so embarrassed by what had happened, not use to dating, etc. He wants to try again. We emailed back and forth for another 2 weeks. He seems genuine so I agreed to try again. Early in the week we decide to meet the following Saturday and firm up time and place by Friday. I never hear from him again!!

Between these two instances, my self esteem has plummeted. I am so discouraged because it is rare that I feel connected enough to even want to go out with someone! Is there an astrological explanation for the run of bad luck, and why I am attracted to men that do not follow through??

Any insight is greatly appreciated!

L

Dear L,

Your recent reluctance to get back into the dating game when you already have a full plate of career and child raising is certainly understandable (and the relationship appetite suppressant known as ‘divorce’ probably hasn’t helped, either); but then to have such discouraging experiences once you do venture back in must be very disappointing. And meeting new people can be both difficult (where do you go?) and exhausting (sorting through the frogs to find even a potential prince!)

Exasperated Karma Fairy
Exasperated Karma Fairy

Is it the karma fairy, tapping you with her wand of invisibility and/ or payback, real or imagined? No, I think not, but what we do have to look at isn’t the men, it’s the one constant in the equation: you. There are some hints in the natal chart that say you may expect relationships not to go well: Venus is quincunx Pluto (love and relationships require constant adjustment that can be destructive–and that love itself can be wearing and destructive); Sun conjunct Chiron (a wounded Soul); Venus squares Neptune (idealizing love leads to real-life disillusion, or an inability to pinpoint what love is or, more importantly, what it feels like when it’s given). These aren’t set in stone, and of course can carry other meanings, but taken as a whole may suggest that love is an area that is not clear or easy for you.

Transits during the time you specified paint a picture of some ‘heavy’ energies being dealt with in a very public way: Pluto through the 7th, completely scouring and destroying previous notions of what it takes to partner; Jupiter through the 7th, exaggerating all mate or partnership activities (and the hurt and problems involved, as well); Uranus through the 10th, giving the reputation and public image a radical, erratic, or unstable aura (that doesn’t necessarily reflect reality, but it’s what others see); and Neptune from 9th to 10th, obscuring you, perhaps quite literally! from the sight of others. These major transits alone would explain the way others see you, acknowledge you, are attracted by what they imagine they see (Neptune’s influence) and then . . . you slip from their attention, and they abandon their intent. And I’m just supposing, here, but the pattern of men engaging, reassuring you of their interest, and then not following through may hint that what you are conveying to them may more openly show your (quite justified) hurt, need, and desire for rescue, in some sense, than you are aware of, and for many this isn’t an aphrodisiac.

This entire dynamic is likely a mechanism the Universe is using to allow you to rest, recover, and re-discover who you are on your own, without a partner. Ruler of 11th House goals and wishes, Mars, is currently being transited by Pluto, re-working and re-vivifying what you want (and helping you re-discover what you can offer). Neptune has, through the dating periods mentioned, been in the vicinity of your natal Sun/ Chiron conjunction, making it both difficult to see in exactly what way you may at present be injured (which can show very plainly to those with whom we interact), and giving you a chance to heal and create yourself along the lines of your ideal Self–a great opportunity, that many people never get.

You have some wonderful life potentials in your Grand Trine of Sun/ Chiron trine Juno trine the Moon, and in your Grand Trine involving Vesta, Earth, and Saturn; the former says you are a vessel for development of a unique role or skill that brings the Soul Purpose and emotional state to a peak of maturity and refinement, and the latter shows the ability to honor what’s sacred about the world that surrounds us. Sun/ Chiron quincunx Ceres also suggests enormous possibilities centered in your understanding of and gifts keyed to the natural world, nurturing, and/ or your unique identity.

My thought is, give the attention and energy you would invest in a relationship to yourself, for right now, and with time, as your idea of who you are and what you want post-divorce becomes clearer, I think companions will start to come out of the woodwork. Someone like you, once she’s sure of herself and is ready to love in the best way, will attract attract attract–but you have to stop pouring the energy out, and start letting the love that’s all around you in, before you’ll reach that correct, attractive balance.

Julie