Eros on the Midheaven: What Do They See?

Eros evolved over time into a rather harmless child with a bow and arrow. William-Adolphe Bouguereau (1825-1905) - A Young Girl Defending Herself Against Eros (1880) {{PD}}
Eros evolved over time into a rather harmless child with a bow and arrow. William-Adolphe Bouguereau (1825-1905) – A Young Girl Defending Herself Against Eros (1880) {{PD}}

I love to answer questions from my readers, but it’s interesting that all the questions I’ve gotten lately have generally failed to give me what I need to give a well-grounded reply to the query. There seems to have been a headlong hurry to ask a question without considering that I ask for complete birth data (with month spelled out) not for my health but so I can do my job! That said, I’m going to wade in here and hand out a few crumbs of advice and astrological opinion; this is the first of several to come over the next week or so:

hi, i have 3 questions.
i wish you could tell me what those mean:

i have my eros conjunct my MC in pisces.
i have my north node conjunct vertex same degree in scorpio (5th house)
i have sun in taurus in 12th house and mercury in gemini 12th house ( what are my hidden talent)?

Hi Chris (I cheated and looked at the name on your comment, since you dashed in and out so quickly you didn’t sign your letter!),

First, I tell people over and over that I’m not crazy about removing a single aspect from its environment in the chart and commenting, simply because we need a total context in order to truly understand anything–and I’m even more reluctant when someone gives me a list of aspects with no birth data, as that means I can’t even determine for myself whether I think they are indeed conjunct, opposed, and so on. You also do not state which House method you use; I use Whole Sign but am practiced in Placidus as well–and anyone who knows much about Houses will tell you that placements can differ between these two, so that what you see as, say, the 5th House I may read in a Whole Sign chart as the 6th. So, you give me virtually nothing to work with that will guarantee my remarks will actually apply to the placements in your chart–so please, don’t take them that way, as they’re only the most general of statements.

A conjunction of Eros and the Midheaven in any sign suggests that the public image, reputation, or career accomplishments may be ripe for projection by others; that is, they may ‘know’ you (possibly only at a distance) and impose their own ideas of eroticism, desirability, or ‘right conduct’ on you (this latter as a judgment, if they disapprove of sexual energy shown openly)–and this is unrelated to your actual demeanor or activity. It’s more a kind of animal magnetism perceived by others who know you through the career or public reputation, a ‘receiving’ of the erotic energy of others, as in, you do something in the career or public venue (or even just exist!) in a way that encourages others to see you in an erotic light. It could even be a statement of an intense and satisfying passion you have for your career, of being driven in the profession. Now, a few words about Eros energy: it doesn’t come from outside of us, emitted by another person (or even an object) despite the fact that it feels that way to the person having the erotic feeling. It’s instead a projection of erotic feeling on another; it’s a kind of choice to see that person or thing as having a sexually attractive quality. When we carry this energy on the Midheaven, our erotic nature (those things we find attractive and stimulating) may be visible to all–and is very likely to permeate your public role, even if the role is not an overtly sexual one. In Pisces you may have the ability to convey an image, especially professionally, that may have little to do with your core identity.

I won’t even touch the second question, because the Vertex is determined by accurate birth data, and I don’t know if you have that, and can’t inspect it for myself. A North Node conjunct a Vertex makes a statement along the lines of, ‘A Fated Future’–but honestly, either everyone has a fated future or no one does. Who’s to say how much is predetermined? Certainly, we exercise our Free Will all the time.

This last question suggests you’ve used a House system similar to Placidus, as it allows for more than one sign in a House. Again, though, I would read these as being in two different Houses, so really can’t comment on it, other than to say that bodies posited in the 12th should not necessarily be read as ‘hidden talents’, though they might be under the right chart circumstances. They are more likely to be energies we aren’t directly conscious of–and that means they may come out, especially through the matters of the House(s) they rule, in some uncontrolled and poorly realized forms, until they become consciously channeled, claimed as your own, and used in positive forms.

Chris, thanks for writing, and good luck with your astrology studies–

jd

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What You’re Asking: Eros in Public, An Emo Ghost, and Stalker Synastry

Eros conjunct the Midheaven

In the chart of an individual, Eros conjunct the Midheaven will likely manifest as an eroticization of the career or public function; in other words, he or she will be turned on by the professional role, and/or by their own exposure (and I use that word intentionally) in the public arena. This can have very innocent results–someone super-dedicated to the role they play in life can be the result, the consummate professional who excels because they’re truly dedicated to what they do–or it can bring about the kind of person who participates very eagerly in life–they ‘play the game’ with gusto. This can also be someone who thrives on the attention of the crowd, and particularly likes to hear about themselves and their reputations–a kind of reverse gossip, who wants to hear it all, as long as it’s about him or her! It can also signal someone who’s very open and honest about their proclivities, or someone who doesn’t mind others knowing what they truly are turned on by–they show preferences with no holding back, no shame, very healthy as they let others look on minus any hesitation about others knowing who they are–because to them, the private stuff lies elsewhere. And yes, it can also signal someone for whom their own public image is eroticized, with those observing seeing them as a sexual object, or as personifying an idealized sexual image as prescribed by the relevant society or even social circle. See an example here https://askjulie.wordpress.com/the-lens-of-eros/

Cross-chart, if one person’s Eros conjuncts another’s MC, we see the Eros person turned on by the career and/or public image of the other person–this could be a celebrity-chaser, or someone who often finds themselves attracted to those that others admire, with or without it making any sense. The response of the MC person will depend largely on that person’s feeling about receiving that erotic projection; if it fts their own ideas about themselves, they may thoroughly enjoy it–if it’s at odds with the way they see themselves (or the way they believe the other person should perceive them) then it can be a disquieting experience to interact with the Eros individual–minds will be changed, or the MC person will beat feet out of there fast, out of sheer discomfort!

Don’t confuse Eros with love; it is, instead, focused desire with the intention to possess that upon which it’s fixed–and though sometimes that feels like love, it’s really a type of projection, a decision to mentally overlay the person or object (because yes, they call fetishes and toys and talismans and such ‘erotica’ for a reason!) with sexual meaning.

Do Gemini men indulge in adultery?

They’re human, aren’t they? No sign is immune to any behavior,  just as no sign guarantees a behavior–we’re much more complex than that. Here’s my thought: if you’re asking the question, then you’re not feeling secure in the relationship–so the next issue becomes, Is it you, or is it him? Sometimes we project our own proclivities onto others; in this case, you might be prone to stray yourself, or, more likely, you might be unreliable, and this could translate into a need to constantly be reassured in whatever life area you are least secure, in this case, the romantic one. Or, this could genuinely be your intuition speaking. Only you know for sure.

husband not emotionally there

My heart (and the hearts of many of my readers) definitely go out to you. It’s not easy trying to relate to someone who seems unreachable on any but an intellectual level. That said, we must acknowledge that your husband’s emotions exist–and it’s important to say this, as it’s easy to pretend that someone not showing emotion doesn’t have emotions. And that suggests that he’s either feeling alienated from his own emotions (via depression) or that he is hiding his feelings from you.

I don’t mean to be glib, but it seems to me that if your husband is not emotionally there, with you, then he must be somewhere else–and I think that in some circumstances, this is the reality we don’t want to face. If this happens to strike a chord with you, the first thing you must do is face that, though a relationship consists of many facets, and connects at many levels, a marital relationship without emotional engagement basically negates all but the legal definition of the pact; marriage is, at its very essence, an emotional communion–and without that, you may be looking at the fact that the marriage no longer exists.

It’s essential that you understand a few things before you make any decisions or pronouncements: that your husband has disengaged for a reason–it may be one he needs help with (like depression) or may be one he will fiercely deny or defend against (infidelity, emotional or physical, a change in his feelings toward you, a spiritual path that may have turned him strongly toward considering only himself–and this latter should’ve lead him to formally end a relationship with you long before, so it’s not a more ‘noble’ excuse). You must also recognize that you cannot control his responses, nor should you try; though there may be a feeling that he ‘owes you’ (as implied by some readings of the marriage vows) sorting this out is not helped by judgments or demands, though it’s true that as your partner, he needs to acknowledge and deal with his own disengagement. You must also acknowledge your own, true feelings; sometimes we are as disengaged as our partner, but don’t want to see it–and sometimes we simply want to extract ‘payment’ in some form, for the pain we feel they’ve caused–but in both instances, we may not love anymore, ourselves, and are misrepresenting our own position, out of righteousness, as well as misunderstanding our own emotional state.

Sometimes we cannot get our partner, when he’s in this state, to speak in any meaningful way about existing circumstances, and in this case, it falls to you to decide how you feel (regardless of his feelings–after all, your feelings aren’t dependent on his, are they? And if they are, then it’s high time this relationship was examined, anyway). You only have control of yourself, so once you determine your own feelings (and sort out your own needs) you’ll know whether this ghost husband is offering anything sustainable, anything that still retains the shape of a marriage, and it will be quite obvious what you must do from there. Good luck–

Why did Venus hate Psyche?

I think ‘hate’ is the wrong word here–I think Venus was threatened by Psyche’s beauty, and that would make her both envious (wanting what Psyche has) and jealous (when Venus’ son Eros, whose full attention Venus had up to this point, falls in love with Psyche–Venus wants the attention of Eros, that Psyche now has). It just illustrates the idea that a woman who tries to destroy another woman hates a little part of herself–not a pretty picture at all.

stalker synastry

All synastry is highly dependent on the interaction of individual charts for ‘punch,’ and the synastry of a stalker to a stalkee could have any number of compelling aspects. A few include: the Pluto of the stalker to any identity energy (Sun, Moon, Venus for female, Mars for male, chart ruler, Sun or Moon ruler) of the stalked; Saturn of the stalker to these same identity energies (signalling a possible compulsion to control); Ceres (especially a female’s Ceres) to prominent chart energies; in negative Juno contact (usually more bossy than stalky); and Neptune prominent in the stalker’s chart and contacting significant energies of the stalkee–this latter obviously brings a high possibility of delusion into the mix. Still, so much depends on how these individuals use their energies, that just having some of these contacts doesn’t necessarily promise obsession–whew!

And check out this article for a really interesting account of youthful indiscretion–or perhaps, youthful optimism that sees things in a more romatic light than they warrant: http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/2009/ class=”hiddenSpellError” pre=””>jun/07/lynn-barber-virginity-relationships